Knotless Method of Hiding the End Tails

This is very interesting! My stitches are always very tight as well, so it is very hard for me to sew the thread under the caps. I have tried the magic thread method, which so far has worked the best for me. But I will definitely try the whipping method! I really hope it works well. Because hiding the thread ends is the thing I dislike most about tatting...

For those having trouble with magic thread, what gauge is the thread you are using as your loop. I use size 20 for my size 10 and a floss threader for my 20. I only run it under 3-5 stitches and when I cut the thread after finishing the stitches, I leave a 3" tail (handwidth) then only put the first third of the tail through the loop to pull.

I stabilize the stitches by lightly pinching them as I pull which creates a little channel. The stitches are a little fatter, but I run my magic thread usually through the same part of the first loop that is also hiding the first end.

@wodentoad, that sounds exactly like what I do. I've tried all the way down to size 80 thread, dental floss, dental loops, and fine fishing line(worked the worst). I simply tat too tightly with a shuttle. Needle tatters won't have that problem, because the needle automagically controls their tension. I've also cut myself with thread trying to pull tails through - not pleasant.

Leigh

Well, there you go! If another method works for you, use it. The only thing that matters is that there is more lace in the world.

I'm with Leigh on this. But the funny thing is, my stitches usually don't seem all the tight. Sewing under caps works a treat for me; closing and opening rings is never a problem - barring ratty thread; and now whipping works quite well. I've also used the SSSR when ending on a ring. It's only the magic thread that caused problems. And like Leigh, I've tried all different sizes of thread, fishing line - that cuts fingers in a hurry, floss threaders. I'm not the least bit fussed about it, though. I don't really like having those tatty bits hanging out of my starting point while I'm working, so I'll just leave if for those who like it. Now, back to tatting.

I have updated the first post of this thread with new links & explanation. Sharing the links with image here (since one cannot add a pic in Edit)
Lots & lots of links on how to hide ends
Hiding End Tails without Knot pdf - updated, revised diagrams based on TWoT

in reply to muskaan's post:

Thanks for your masterly summary! I will certainly be referring others to this post in future...

Thanks for all your work on this @muskaan I'm grateful for all the experimenting you do, and sharing that with us!

Leigh

I'm just a student trying to learn as much as I can, and share my journey with anybody who is interested . Every journey is made special when tatters join in :-) Thanks @GraceT & @moraih. Your appreciation means a lot to me :-)

in reply to Lynn's post:

do you have a close-up pic of your whipping areas?

Maybe my worksheet for the "Magic Thread" technique might help folks...
Now to find out if I can add the pdf here... I don't have it on line so can't add the file here... :-(
Is there a section for Techniques please?
SueH
SE London

in reply to SueH's post:

Hi, Sue, nice to hear from you! Yes, there's a section for techniques. Click on Resources in the menu bar, then click on Tutorials. That's where they're posted. You can create a database record for your technique there. You should also be able to attach your file with your record.

in reply to GraceT's post:

Thanks Grace, I found the form I filled everything in but there is no where to up load the file :-( It is asking me for a direct link to a URL... I don't have a webpage and the file is on me laptop...
I know I hopeless at techno stuff...
@Kersti - Is there a section to add files that I could point to please?

I found out how to add a picture... Unfortunately the file is in pdf format...
Not having much luck :-(

Hi Sue :-)
You can 'deposit' the document with Kersti and she will upload.
Alternatively, ...
Do you have a Gmail account ? If yes, then you can get a shareable link through blogger , Docs, etc. Check it out here : https://support.google.com/docs/answer/2494822?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
I'll check back tomorrow ....

@SueH Yes, you can upload a pdf from your laptop. Let's see if I can talk you through it.

Go to the page for your tutorial: http://www.craftree.com/tutorials/422.
Click on the pencil button at the upper right to edit.
The form you originally filled out will open up.
At the top there are five links in red. Click on Edit Attached Files.
Under Add File fill in the name you want the file to have on the tutorial page.
Click Choose File, and navigate to the pdf on your laptop. Click Open.
That should fill in the name of the file on your computer.
Click Upload.
The file should now appear higher up on the Edit Attached Files page under Currently Attached Files.
Choose Back to Entry, and the pdf should appear on the tutorial page under Attached Files.

The result should look similar to this tutorial entry: http://www.craftree.com/tutorials/411.

Using the Attached Files section allows full resolution for images and pdfs, and you are not limited to the png and jpg formats that are the only formats allowed for images displaying on a catalog page. Those are uploaded through the red Edit Pictures link and may have the resolution reduced.

If you don't have an image for your tutorial, I can make and add one from the pdf once you upload it.

Please ask again if I haven't been clear enough for this to work for you. Alternatively as muskaan said, you can email the pdf to Kersti using kersti at craftree dot com, specify the tutorial you want it uploaded to, and she will do it.

Wow, thanks, @becky400! I will save that information for myself as well...

@GraceT I've added this to the Craftree Help page for easy reference - http://www.craftree.com/wiki/Attaching+a+file+to+a+Pattern+or+Tutorial.

in reply to becky400's post:

Thanks again, Becky! I have to admit, I have not explored Craftree's wiki very much.