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Thread created on 1245198137 by JudithConnors.
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Hi Judith
No problem. I'm surprised I noticed it. I found a wonderful site that has great visuals on it by Karen Cabrera on you tube. Very clear tutorials, with over 80 lessons. She covers the knots discussed on this thread.
http://entrelanzaderas.blogspot.com.au/2010/10/clases-de-frivolite-tatting-lessons.html
I'm sure most of you ladies and gents will have come across it before. As I'm a visual learner this site clarified a great deal for me.
Yes! In Lesson 69 Karen Cabrera has the Dora Young join using either the core thread or the working/active/ball thread. I'd never seen the core thread version before.
And in Lesson 25 she does onion rings with the lock join, or the slope & roll join, or the Dora Young/Catherine Wheel join. BUT, the Catherine Wheel join in this video is done without encapsulating the core thread, whereas the CWJ in Lesson 69 does encapsulate the core thread! I suppose not encapsulating the core thread produces a different effect — a bit of space between the rings.
I'm hoping Karen will now do a lesson on the Anne Dyer join to the smooth side... 
LOL. It's in the waiting list. I was doing some more research on it and a previous post by Judith just made everything crystal clear. Off to practice!!!
Oh, goody!
Top stuff Karen. I for one am looking forward to it. It's been wonderful watching you teach. I've learnt so much for your videos. A very big thank you.
Karen, great video on the Dora Young linking method with either thread! It's pleasing to see Dora Young being honoured still.
To keep the Catherine wheel and onion ring layers close together (snug), sometimes tatters don't link into a picot but directly in between two double stitches. With the movement of the threads, this will stretch a little to form a very tiny picot.
Let's see what you can produce with 'Anne Dyer's join to the smooth side'. :-)
Judith, i'm humbled to the point of tears. I'll probably send you a draft video for you to revise before posting it, if you agree. Thank you and thank you all for your words of praise. They mean a lot to me.
Karen, I find myself referring people to your videos again and again! They're a great service to tatters all over the world. Thank you.
This is a very enlightening thread. Just wanted to bring it back to life for newer members as well as for tatters like me who joined in late .... Clarified a lot of concepts .
Thanks for the opportunity & discussion, @JudithConnors
Thank you for bringing this thread back to life. I was searching for how to make the best "invisible" join on a coil and think I've found it right here. Thank you to so many who generously share your insight, videos and time.
You're welcome, Karenjo.
All tatters have their favourite joins or links. The DYJ can be used in many situations. When linking around a coil, you may find it better to make the DYJ directly between two double stitches, rather than create tiny picots for the joins. Everything will sit snugly. If you make the join with the auxiliary/#2 shuttle, you can encapsulate the core thread as you go. This allows you to maintain the tension around the outside of the coil.
@karen, like Grace, I frequently refer tatters to your lessons. I also enjoy looking through them, just to find new (to me) techniques to try. You are, and will be for years to come, a cyber blessing to the tatting world.
in reply to JudithConnors's post:
Thank you, Judith! This is what I did and it turned out quite nice. No picots and encapsulation of Sh #1 made it so much better than my first attempts. I kept tension just a tad bit looser so joins were smoother and blended in nicely. I just might decide I like this join now. Yesterday - not so much.
Karenjo,
You'll find that it will 'grow' on you, and you'll discover other places where it can be used, especially when you can apply it to either shuttle thread.
Thanks to @muskaan, I'm revisiting the Anne Dyer Join to the Smooth Side (JSS). I didn't realise that @kcabrera74 had already made a video showing how to do it! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-wsHQQ6Dc) It was very helpful for me to watch it. I think the last time I tried it I might not have popped the core thread to the back of the picot. I'll now give the JSS another try. Thanks again, Karen! 